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		<title>Why Is Google Even Involved In The Yahoo! Acquisition Talks?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been numerous news reports about Google considering &#8220;buying&#8221; Yahoo!, or at least teaming up with private equity companies to do so. While most of the articles at least mention in passing that it&#8217;d be unlikely for this to pass government review, I haven&#8217;t seen many people actually discuss why Google is involved. Why wouldn&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
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<p>There&#8217;s been <a href="http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/24/technology/yahoo_google_microsoft/">numerous news reports</a> about Google considering &#8220;buying&#8221; Yahoo!, or at least teaming up with private equity companies to do so.  </p>
<p>While most of the articles at least mention in passing that it&#8217;d be unlikely for this to pass government review, I haven&#8217;t seen many people actually discuss why Google is involved.</p>
<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t a Google acquisition of Yahoo! pass government review?  Well, if the Department of Justice wouldn&#8217;t pass the search deal that Google and Yahoo! worked up in 2008 where SOME of Yahoo!&#8217;s search results were powered by Google, then why would they actually let Google take part in buying all of Yahoo!?</p>
<p>In fact, many thought that Google knew in 2008 it wouldn&#8217;t pass government review, but tried to do the deal just so Yahoo! would turn down Microsoft and waste a lot of Yahoo!&#8217;s internal time (and it worked).  I sat in many meetings at Yahoo! that were spent talking about the tests we were running with Google and how we were going to implement the deal.</p>
<p>There hasn&#8217;t been enough change in search market share for anyone to seriously even think it could pass.  I&#8217;m not entirely sure if Google being only part of an ownership group with private equity firms would change the government&#8217;s view, but I doubt it.</p>
<h3>Which leaves us asking, why is anyone even taking Google&#8217;s interest seriously?</h3>
<p>I can&#8217;t answer why anyone is taking Google seriously, besides the fact that they are one of the only players who actually have the cash to do something around Yahoo!.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.wylio.com/credits/flickr/116017204" title="license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ - click to view more info about 'Red flags' or find free 'red flag' pictures via Wylio"><img style="float:right; margin:0 10px" alt="'Red flags' photo (c) 2004, Rutger van Waveren - license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/" src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/-O1756-xS8Jo/TqY6o968mdI/AAAAAAAAAzg/bNu8kotDmwY/Flickr-116017204.jpg" width="232" height="174"/></a>It just seems like any major involvement on there part is going to just raise big red flags with the governments of the world and will never pass &#8220;go&#8221;.</p>
<h3>Why would Google get involved then? </h3>
<p>I feel like there are two obvious answers to this one.</p>
<ol>
<li> Google can pretend to at least have interest in Yahoo! to draw out how quickly something happens here. The more time Yahoo! is in limbo, and the more time Microsoft spends figuring out what to do about it, the better that is for Google to continue to separate itself from them.</li>
<li>Google can go as far as even floating prices out there to try and get others (Microsoft) to feel like they have to pay more in order to get Yahoo!.  The more money someone spends on Yahoo!, the better that is for Google.</li>
</ol>
<p>I suppose it is possible that Google really does want to keep Yahoo! out of Microsoft&#8217;s hands, but it seems like Microsoft having to acquire and digest Yahoo! would just allow Google to accelerate ahead even further ahead.  It&#8217;s all just a ruse to waste time by complicating matters and drive up the price.  Well played Google.</p>
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		<title>Where Yahoo&#8217;s Properties Stack Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 17:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was a big day at Yahoo! yesterday, with Kara Swisher breaking the news that Carol Bartz was fired as CEO (over the phone no less). I found the firing over the phone ironic. When I was vice president at Yahoo! during the layoffs in 2009, I was requested to lay off 6 members of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wylio.com/credits/flickr/3768403423" title="license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ - click to view more info about 'Steve Ballmer signs the Microsoft-Yahoo! agreement' or find free 'carol bartz' pictures via Wylio"><img style="float:right; margin:0 10px" alt="'Steve Ballmer signs the Microsoft-Yahoo! agreement' photo (c) 2009, Yahoo! Blog - license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/" src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/-Y1s7Wv3yXcg/TmcG395jWoI/AAAAAAAAAzM/qxOrx0ONm0w/Flickr-3768403423.jpg" width="329" height="219"/></a>It was a big day at Yahoo! yesterday, with <a href="http://allthingsd.com/20110906/exclusive-carol-bartz-out-at-yahoo-cfo-interim-ceo/">Kara Swisher breaking the news</a> that Carol Bartz was fired as CEO (over the phone no less).  </p>
<p>I found the firing over the phone ironic.  When I was vice president at Yahoo! during the layoffs in 2009, I was requested to lay off 6 members of my team in person on the same day across three offices intwo different states.  Naturally, I did as asked despite the impossible travel day it created, as I believed it was the right thing to do to have in-person conversations with people in those tough moments.  Apparently Carol wasn&#8217;t given the same courtesy.</p>
<p>As news broke about Bartz&#8217;s ouster, the consistent chorus of people calling Yahoo! doomed or irrelevant began to ring out.  Yahoo! has indeed been troubled, but I believe it can and should be saved.</p>
<p>Yahoo! wants to be the “premiere digital media company&#8221;, which is the right goal based on their strengths, where the world is headed, and what their competitors are likely to focus on.  Let&#8217;s take a look at those strengths.</p>
<h3>Yahoo!&#8217;s Strengths</h3>
<p>Let&#8217;s take a look at where their top US properties stand with competitors using data from <a href="http://compete.com">Compete.com</a>.  Yes, I know <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/29/anti-web-analytics/">Compete.com is far from perfect with it&#8217;s numbers and even trends</a>, but there are few choices for public data analysis and the ranking should be correct.</p>
<p><strong>Portal-Style Front Page</strong><br />
If we just compare against similar &#8220;portal&#8221; type front pages, Yahoo!&#8217;s front page is #1.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Front Page</span><br />
2. MSN.com<br />
3. AOL.com</p>
<p><strong>Personalized Front Page</strong><br />
There aren&#8217;t many personalized portals like My Yahoo! left, but Facebook and Twitter seem like the new generation of this to compare against My Yahoo!, which still has a tremendous amount of traffic.<br />
1. Facebook<br />
2. Twitter<br />
<span style="color:purple">3. My Yahoo!</span></p>
<p><strong>News</strong><br />
This is a gigantic category where Yahoo! crushes the competition.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! News</span><br />
2. MSNBC<br />
3. CNN<br />
4. NYTimes<br />
5. Google News</p>
<p><strong>Mail</strong><br />
Yahoo! Mail has been the leader in email for a quite some time.  If anything there is a larger threat from Facebook messages, mobile texts, and other forms of communication than from direct competitors.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Mail</span><br />
2. Live/Hotmail<br />
3. Gmail</p>
<p><strong>Search</strong><br />
The big daddy of properties, Search is a primary revenue driver.  While the Comscore data has Yahoo! and Bing being close and flip-flopping, Compete does have Yahoo! Search at #3.<br />
1. Google<br />
2. Bing<br />
<span style="color:purple">3. Yahoo! Search</span></p>
<p><strong>Finance</strong><br />
One of Yahoo!&#8217;s anchor properties, Yahoo! Finance is a traffic powerhouse.  Google Finance traffic data can&#8217;t be pulled out, but it&#8217;s definitely not close to Yahoo!.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Finance</span><br />
2. money.cnn.com<br />
3. money.cnbc.com<br />
4. Marketwatch.com<br />
5. TheStreet.com</p>
<p><strong>Photos</strong><br />
This one is tough to measure now, as Facebook&#8217;s photo data is not broken out, and mobile startup Instagram is quickly becoming a player.  Twitter is also making more of a move here recently.  Since it&#8217;s clear Facebook is now #1 even without the data broken out, it shakes out like this:<br />
1. Facebook<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Flickr by Yahoo!</span><br />
3. Photobucket<br />
4. Instagram</p>
<p><strong>Instant Messenger</strong><br />
Tough to measure how Facebook and Gmail chat compare here since neither one is broken out in the Compete data. If I had to guess, I&#8217;d say Yahoo! is ahead of Gmail chat but I&#8217;m not sure what Facebook&#8217;s usage looks like.<br />
1. Skype<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Yahoo! Messenger</span><br />
3. AOL Instant Messenger</p>
<p><strong>Sports</strong><br />
Another one of Yahoo!&#8217;s outstanding gigantic properties, Yahoo! Sports is the leader in game even though ESPN calls itself &#8220;The Leader&#8221;.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Sports</span><br />
2. ESPN<br />
3. Fox Sports</p>
<p><strong>Entertainment</strong><br />
OMG is a great example of what Yahoo! can do, as OMG launched later then competitors and is now dominating them.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. OMG.yahoo.com</span><br />
2. TMZ.com<br />
3. People.com</p>
<p><strong>Women</strong><br />
Like OMG, this is another newer Yahoo! property that started much later in the game but is now crushing the competition.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Shine by Yahoo!</span><br />
2. iVillage<br />
3. Cosmopolitan</p>
<p><strong>Local</strong><br />
The competition is really close here on the Compete data so this order could end up being wrong.<br />
1. Google Local<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Yahoo! Local</span><br />
3. Local.com<br />
4. Yelp</p>
<p><strong>Maps</strong><br />
The Compete data has Mapquest being ahead of Google in web visitors, but with mobile factored in Google is the clear leader.<br />
1. Google Maps<br />
2. Mapquest<br />
<span style="color:purple">3. Yahoo! Maps</span></p>
<p><strong>Travel</strong><br />
It&#8217;s a very competitive space, but Yahoo! still puts up a good fight against some heavyweights.<br />
1. Expedia<br />
2. TripAdvisor<br />
3. Priceline<br />
<span style="color:purple">4. Yahoo! Travel</span></p>
<p><strong>Real Estate</strong><br />
Quick, who&#8217;s the biggest real estate site? Answer: Yahoo!.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Real Estate</span><br />
2. Realtor.com<br />
3. Zillow<br />
4. Trulia</p>
<p><strong>Games</strong> (Web-based)<br />
Gaming is now getting fragmented with web-based games, games on Facebook, and games on mobile.  If we look at just web-based games including Zynga on Facebook, Yahoo! comes in at #3.<br />
1. Zynga/Facebook<br />
2. Pogo.com<br />
<span style="color:purple">3. Yahoo! Games</span></p>
<p><strong>Movies</strong><br />
This is one of those &#8220;kind of silent but really powerful&#8221; Yahoo! properties.  How many startups would kill to have 20M users like Yahoo! Movies does?<br />
1. IMDB.com<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Yahoo! Movies</span><br />
3. Fandango</p>
<p><strong>Music</strong><br />
Would you have guessed Yahoo! Music was #1 in music properties with over 18M estimated users?  Me either.  This is a dangerous one though as music consumption changes to become more mobile and application-based.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Music</span><br />
2. Pandora<br />
3. Last.fm<br />
4. AOL Music<br />
5. Rhapsody</p>
<p><strong>TV</strong><br />
Once again, the quiet winner you probably wouldn&#8217;t have guessed is Yahoo!.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! TV</span><br />
2. Hulu<br />
3. TV Guide</p>
<p><strong>Shopping</strong><br />
When it comes to comparison shopping engines/portals, Yahoo! comes out on top again.  To be fair though, Google&#8217;s &#8220;shopping&#8221; section can&#8217;t be pulled out in Compete data, but it&#8217;s not really the same type of shopping portal.   Amazon.com and eBay are also larger, but are different types of sites.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Shopping</span><br />
2. Bizrate<br />
3. Shopping.com</p>
<p><strong>Dating</strong><br />
Yahoo! outsourced Yahoo! Personals to Match.com in a move by Bartz.  However, Yahoo&#8217;s Match.com subdomain is still #2 in the market:<br />
1. Match.com<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Yahoo.match.com</span><br />
3. PlentyofFish<br />
4. eHarmony</p>
<p><strong>Fantasy Sports</strong><br />
This is harder to tell traffic on with Compete as Yahoo! has a subdomain for it but redirects it to sports.yahoo.com.  Despite that, while working at Yahoo! in 2010 I know that Yahoo!&#8217;s Fantasy Football was #1 in the market, so I&#8217;ll hazard a guess that it&#8217;s it&#8217;s in the top 2 in this lucrative market.</p>
<p><strong>Q&#038;A</strong><br />
While Quora gets all the tech industry buzz these days, it&#8217;s still tiny compared to Yahoo! Answers.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Answers</span><br />
2. Answers.com<br />
3. Askville by Amazon</p>
<p><strong>Video</strong><br />
It&#8217;s a long way off in traffic from YouTube, a long way&#8230;.but Yahoo! comes it an #5.<br />
1. YouTube<br />
2. Facebook<br />
3. Hulu<br />
4. Metacafe<br />
<span style="color:purple">5. Yahoo! Video</span></p>
<p><strong>Weather</strong><br />
Yahoo! is quite a bit behind market leader Weather.com, but #2 isn&#8217;t bad.<br />
1. Weather.com<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Yahoo! Weather</span><br />
3. Accuweather</p>
<p><strong>Groups</strong><br />
The data isn&#8217;t broken out, but we&#8217;ll assume Facebook Groups are now getting more traffic than Yahoo! Groups.<br />
1. Facebook Groups<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Yahoo! Groups</span><br />
3. Google Groups</p>
<p><strong>Health</strong><br />
Yahoo! Health has a strong showing in another very lucrative advertising category that also generates high traffic.<br />
1. WebMD<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Yahoo! Health</span><br />
3. MedicineNet</p>
<p><strong>Autos</strong><br />
Despite entries from all the portal companies as well as industry powerhouses like Autotrader, Edmunds, and Cars.com, Yahoo! Autos comes out on top.<br />
<span style="color:purple">1. Yahoo! Autos</span><br />
2. Autotrader.com<br />
3. Edmunds</p>
<p><strong>Downloads</strong><br />
While not the sexiest category these days, it still drives millions of users.  Yahoo! is #2 in downloads and is very close in traffic to #1.<br />
1. Download.com<br />
<span style="color:purple">2. Yahoo! Downloads</span><br />
3. Softpedia</p>
<p><strong>Greetings</strong><br />
Yahoo! outsourced their Greetings to AmericanGreetings.com, but their subdomain still comes out to #4.<br />
1. AmericanGreetings.com<br />
2. 123Greetings.com<br />
3. BlueMountain<br />
<span style="color:purple">4. Yahoo! Greetings</span></p>
<p><strong>Calendar</strong><br />
Comparable data is not in Compete, but Yahoo! Calendar is either #1 or only surpassed by Google Calendar for web-based calendars.</p>
<p><strong>Address Book</strong><br />
Comparable data is not in Compete, but Yahoo! is in the top 3 for web-based address book with Facebook and Google.  Apple is obviously a huge player with this phone-based address book now.</p>
<p><strong>Data Summary</strong><br />
It&#8217;s actually quite shocking to run through so many important categories and see that Yahoo! is a leader or one of the top companies in that space.  Any of their positions alone would be an amazing startup or growing company, but doing it across so many categories is really impressive.  It may not be flashy, but Yahoo! is getting the job done in a bunch of those spaces.</p>
<p>Additionally you can bring in other businesses here that aren&#8217;t really &#8220;consumer&#8221; facing like Yahoo! Small Business, Web Hosting, Domain Registration, Yahoo! Ad Network, Right Media Exchange, and others.</p>
<p>Also not covered above is how Yahoo! fares internationally in many of those properties in other countries.  It&#8217;s all over the map (literally), but some of the international regions are stronger than the USA in overall dominance.  Not to mention the ownership value of various Asian assets.</p>
<h3>Yahoo!&#8217;s Weaknesses</h3>
<p>What makes Yahoo! vulnerable is that they are doing well in all those categories above, but primarily just from a desktop computer experience.  </p>
<p><strong>The Facebook Effect</strong><br />
Facebook has already been stealing Yahoo!&#8217;s thunder in various categories for a while now, but it remains a huge threat.  Facebook doesn&#8217;t compete with Yahoo! on identical products, but does things like make a traditional front page unnecessary, or replacing email with Facebook messages and instant chats.  </p>
<p>If or when Facebook starts making moves into running their own socially-enabled properties like &#8220;Facebook News&#8221; or &#8220;Facebook Sports&#8221;, Yahoo! may have even more trouble ahead.</p>
<p><strong>Social in General</strong><br />
Handled above by the Facebook effect, but Yahoo! will continue to lose out to Facebook and other social applications if it doesn&#8217;t improve rapidly in this area.  It&#8217;s not for a lack of trying, but Yahoo! has now essentially outsourced a lot of their social stuff to enabling Facebook and Twitter on their properties.<br />
<a href="http://www.wylio.com/credits/flickr/4993363691" title="license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/ - click to view more info about 'knock-off iPhone 4' or find free 'iphone 4' pictures via Wylio"><img style="float:right; margin:0 10px" alt="'knock-off iPhone 4' photo (c) 2010, Blake Patterson - license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/" src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/-0QE9cqbvXj4/TmcrSJUEuCI/AAAAAAAAAzQ/lmxXVQDVCYs/Flickr-4993363691.jpg" width="187" height="250"/></a><br />
<strong>Mobile and Tablets</strong><br />
Compared to Google, Facebook, and Apple, Yahoo! is very far behind in the mobile world.  It&#8217;s clear they&#8217;ve already lost as far as &#8220;utility applications&#8221; are concerned on mobile devices.  </p>
<p>The question they need to ask is how they make Yahoo! News the default mobile news application across all mobile devices?  How do they make Yahoo! Finance the default financial application?  They don&#8217;t seem to be moving aggressively enough in their leading categories to become the &#8220;premiere digital media company&#8221; on mobile devices.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be interesting to see where Yahoo! goes next with their leadership and strategy.  They have a lot to work with as you can see from above, and I know a lot of talented people are still there looking to make it happen.</p>
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		<title>Why Didn&#8217;t Yahoo! Buy Huffington Post?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 08:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kara Swisher broke the news after the Super Bowl that AOL has purchased the Huffington Post for $315M with Arianna Huffington becoming the Editor in Chief in charge of AOL&#8217;s content properties. Techcrunch also has the internal AOL memo about the deal. This is an interesting deal that signifies how serious AOL is about it&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span id="wylio-flickr-image-5390302161" style="display:block;line-height:15px;width:340px;padding:0;margin:0 10px;position:relative;float:right;"><img style="padding:0;margin:0;border:none;" width="340" height="500" src="http://img.wylio.com/flickr/340/5390302161" title="Arianna Huffington - World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 2011 - photo by: World Economic Forum, Source: Flickr, found with Wylio.com" alt="Arianna Huffington - World Economic Forum Annual Meeting 2011" /></span><br /><a href="http://kara.allthingsd.com/20110206/youve-got-arianna-aol-buys-huffington-post-for-315-million-in-cash/">Kara Swisher broke the news</a> after the Super Bowl that AOL has purchased the Huffington Post for $315M with Arianna Huffington becoming the Editor in Chief in charge of AOL&#8217;s content properties.  Techcrunch also has the <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/06/armstrong-memo-aol-huffpo/">internal AOL memo</a> about the deal.<br />
<span id="more-1152"></span><br />
This is an interesting deal that signifies how serious AOL is about it&#8217;s strategy of focusing on content and becoming a next-generation media company.  Not only does the acquisition seem smart, it seems like a relatively fair price as well.</p>
<p>This leaves me with a big question though, <strong>why didn&#8217;t Yahoo! buy the Huffington Post?</strong>  Let&#8217;s look at some data points:</p>
<ul>
<li>There were <a href="http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/04/yahoo-huffpo/">rumors during the summer</a> that Yahoo! was in some sort of acquisition talks with the Huffington Post.</li>
<p></p>
<li> Huffington Post CEO Eric Hippeau was on the board of Yahoo!, and <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com/eric-hippeau-yahoo-2011-2">just stepped down a few days ago</a>, most likely related to this deal and his new job at Lerer Ventures since he&#8217;s not joining AOL as part of the deal.  Him being on the board obviously means Yahoo! was fully aware of the Huffington Post and it&#8217;s business.  Did Hippeau know things about Yahoo! that made him not want to sell to them?</li>
<p></p>
<li>Huffington Post sales head Greg Coleman was previously the sales head at Yahoo! followed very briefly by being the sales boss at AOL.  When AOL CEO Tim Armstrong joined, one of his first moves was parting ways through Coleman, and he apparently won&#8217;t be joining as part of the deal either.  But, Coleman was obviously still pretty familiar with Yahoo! as well. </li>
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<li>Arianna Huffington spoke at a Yahoo! North America all hands in the past year.</li>
<p></p>
<li>Besides all these connections, Yahoo!&#8217;s strategy these days seems very similar to AOL in it&#8217;s focus on content and cementing itself as the leading new media company.  The Yahoo! acquisition of Associated Content was a similar move to AOL growing it&#8217;s Seed.com content creation arm, and both companies have been hiring more original content creators and growing their businesses in these areas. </li>
<p>
</ul>
<p>So why didn&#8217;t Yahoo! buy Huffington Post?  Some thoughts:</p>
<ul>
<li>Was Huffington Post not interested in being acquired by Yahoo?  Has AOL become a better destination to go work?  Are Armstrong&#8217;s bold moves like buying TechCrunch make it look more forward thinking?  I&#8217;d guess this may be part of it.  As <a href="http://twitter.com/#!/rabois/status/34497271026561024">Keith Rabois tweeted</a> &#8220;Interestingly, Aol has now become a substantially more attractive acquirer for startups/entrepreneurs than yahoo.&#8221;</li>
<p></p>
<li>Was it price?  This seems doubtful.  Maybe back in the summer Yahoo! didn&#8217;t want to pay this much, but if they knew Huffington Post was going to AOL, couldn&#8217;t they have outbid AOL?  Yahoo! has more cash, so I don&#8217;t think this is a bidding war that AOL won. </li>
<p></p>
<li>Was it location?  AOL has a larger presence in New York than Yahoo!, so the Huffington Post team may have felt more like they were in the center of the action and less likely to be orphaned than they might be my Yahoo! who is headquartered in Silicon Valley.</li>
<p></p>
<li>Was it vision?  Is Armstrong and AOL just being more clear about what they are and where they are going?  I think this is probably the case as well.</li>
<p></p>
<li>Did Yahoo! not want to buy Huffington Post?  The news from the summer that Yahoo! was very interested in acquiring them makes this seem unlikely, but strategies and opinions do change.  It&#8217;s tough to know from the outside if Yahoo! was still heavily interested.  It&#8217;s definitely possible that Yahoo! has other plans that don&#8217;t involve major acquisitions moving forward.</li>
</ul>
<p>The bottom line is that I think Yahoo! should have bought Huffington Post.  If their strategy is to be a major content player, Huffington Post was one of the key properties in the landscape and their team has a lot of knowledge and skill in working in the new social landscape of media.  A lot of that could have rubbed off on Yahoo!.</p>
<p>Will Yahoo! counter with their own major media acquisition?  <a href="http://glam.com/">Glam</a>?  <a href="http://sugarinc.com">Sugar Inc.</a>?  Someone else?  Or is Yahoo! blazing their own path that won&#8217;t be focused on acquisitions?</p>
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		<title>Getting Acquired By and Working at Yahoo!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[After finishing over three years at Yahoo! and almost 3 years previous to that at Right Media, I thought it&#8217;d be worthwhile to write about my experience over that very interesting time and set of events. This is simply my perspective as I know that others at Right Media and Yahoo! had completely different opinions [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yahootimessquare.jpg"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yahootimessquare-300x199.jpg" alt="Yahoo! Times Square" title="yahootimessquare" width="300" height="199" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-973" /></a>After finishing over three years at <a href="http://www.yahoo.com/">Yahoo!</a> and almost 3 years previous to that at <a href="http://www.rightmedia.com/">Right Media</a>, I thought it&#8217;d be worthwhile to write about my experience over that very interesting time and set of events.  </p>
<p>This is simply my perspective as I know that others at Right Media and Yahoo! had completely different opinions and feelings about everything that occurred from 2004-2010.  That being said, let&#8217;s take a walk down memory lane.</p>
<h3>Joining Right Media</h3>
<p>In late 2004 when my longtime friend <a href="http://www.appnexus.com/about/">Brian O&#8217;Kelley</a> (currently CEO of <a href="http://appnexus.com">AppNexus</a>) reached out to me to see if I wanted to join a startup called <a href="http://www.rightmedia.com/">Right Media</a>.  Brian was the CTO of Right Media and had built some interesting auction technology for their ad server.   They wanted to start going more aggressively after publishers and he thought I&#8217;d be able to help with that effort.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/businessplanpro.jpg"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/businessplanpro.jpg" alt="Business Plan Pro from Palo Alto Software" title="businessplanpro" width="213" height="236" class="alignright size-full wp-image-980" /></a>I had a good job I enjoyed at Palo Alto Software, a Eugene-based business that is the leader in the business planning software space.  I had worked there for four years and was managing a small team running their ecommerce site <a href="http://www.paloalto.com/">PaloAlto.com</a>, as well as their main content properties <a href="http://bplans.com/">Bplans.com</a> and <a href="http://mplans.com/">Mplans.com</a>.  In my spare time at night, I also was operating a site I started in 1997 called <a href="http://wakeboarder.com/">Wakeboarder.com</a> that I later sold in 2006.</p>
<p>Despite the good job, I wanted the opportunity to join a younger startup and online advertising was a field that I had good experience in and was passionate about.  My role was to do business development, product, and support work for medium to small publishers for Right Media&#8217;s ad network.  Additionally, I looked forward to working with Brian again as we had started our first web business together in 1995 and worked together numerous times since (including a fun dot-com bomb in 1999).  </p>
<p>Right Media was a New York company, but when I joined I made it clear I had no plans to move from Eugene.  Fortunately, Brian and the rest of the executive team (<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/michael-walrath/0/166/b63">Michael Walrath</a>, CEO and <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/christinehunsicker">Christine Hunsicker</a>, COO) allowed me to start building a publisher-focused team in Eugene.  When I joined my wife was excited for me to be able to work from home since we had recently had our 2nd child.  However, after a month I had already hired three great people and found office space.  It was off to the races.</p>
<h3>Right Media Growth</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/rightmedia_logo_lg.gif"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/rightmedia_logo_lg-300x75.gif" alt="Right Media Logo" title="rightmedia_logo_lg" width="300" height="75" class="size-medium wp-image-983" align="left" hspace=5 vspace=5 /></a>When I joined, Right Media was an ad network with some interesting and differentiated auction technology that helped power the network.  It had not yet become an ad exchange, but the ad network itself was growing well.  I helped build Right Media&#8217;s self-service publisher signup, and we began bringing in publishers at a steady clip.  it&#8217;s funny now to think back to 2005 and how we were talking to publishers like <a href="http://www.facebook.com">&#8220;TheFacebook.com&#8221;</a> which was at the time a few young college kids who didn&#8217;t know much about advertising for their college social network.   </p>
<p>Not too long after getting the office space setup in Eugene the company started making the move to the crazy concept of an ad exchange.  We had to go sell other ad networks who were our competitors to use the Right Media Exchange as their ad server or as an additional place to access supply and demand.  It was a strange notion to many people externally, but it made a lot of sense to everyone within the company.  Even then we didn&#8217;t know what would happen when we connected our ad network to another ad network to see how the buying and selling would perform on one platform.  Fortunately, it worked quite well.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_991" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 235px"><a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/rmdoor.jpg"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/rmdoor-225x300.jpg" alt="Right Media Eugene Office Door" title="rmdoor" width="225" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-991" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The Eugene Office Entrance</p></div>The team in Eugene kept growing as we brought on engineers, account managers, and product managers to help support the publisher and ad network pieces of the exchange.  The whole company was growing as well, but we were a startup within a startup.  A bit of a strange concept, but we communicated with the team in New York well and I spent a fair share of time traveling to New York along with trips on the West Coast to meet with clients and attend conferences.</p>
<p>The time during 2005-2007 was amazing as every month saw growth and progress in the business.  The Exchange continued to grow, improve in quality, and it started making real waves within the online advertising industry.  We felt like underdogs taking on the establishment to change the industry, which is one of those things that makes startups so much fun and addicting to many people.  </p>
<p>There were problems with quality, hiccups with the exchange scaling, and problems with spyware and other issues that the company took very seriously and worked through diligently.  I think those things really kept us on our toes and kept us so busy that you really couldn&#8217;t stop and marvel at the fact that we were doing billions of impressions per day by the time 2007 hit.</p>
<p>During 2006 though our team in Eugene had noticed that small to medium publishers were having a tough time working with the complexity of the Right Media Exchange.  We used the APIs to build RMX Direct which was later renamed to Direct Media Exchange.  </p>
<p>This product was the first self-service publisher yield optimizer that was a simple ad server that allowed publishers to get demand from the Exchange while also managing and auctioning their inventory to 3rd party ad networks like <a href="http://google.com/adsense">Google Adsense</a>, <a href="http://www.valueclick.com/">Valueclick</a>, and others.  This was a forefather to the products later built by companies like <a href="http://pubmatic.com/">Pubmatic</a>, the <a href="http://rubiconproject.com/">Rubicon Project</a>, and <a href="http://admeld.com/">AdMeld</a>. </p>
<p> Direct Media Exchange also was experiencing the same kind of rapid growth and success of the Right Media Exchange, but at a smaller scale that was a bit more under the radar.   The team in Eugene was pretty proud of what we&#8217;d built together.<br />
<a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/direct-media-exchange.png"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/direct-media-exchange.png" alt="" title="direct-media-exchange" width="500" height="325" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-993" /></a></p>
<h3>Pre-Acquisition</h3>
<p>My first personal experience with Yahoo! directly came in 2006 during Ad Tech San Francisco.  At about 10 am on the first day, Brian told me that he had a meeting scheduled with Yahoo! down in Sunnyvale that afternoon that he could no longer make due to an important meeting at Ad Tech.  He suggested I go along with <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/antonytaylor">Ant Taylor</a> and <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/schouten1">Kees Schouten</a> who were both at Ad Tech as well. What was interesting about this was that Ant and Kees were actually in their first week on the job at Right Media and didn&#8217;t even really know what their roles were yet.   Additionally, I had no context for the meeting besides that &#8220;we are talking to Yahoo! about becoming a client.&#8221;</p>
<p>We headed down to Sunnyvale and met with <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/ryan-christensen/1/18a/913">Ryan Christensen</a>, who was doing Pricing and Yield Management for Yahoo!&#8217;s display business.  We managed to get through the meeting even though we lacked context and really spent most of the time learning about how Yahoo! was currently running their non-guaranteed business and talking about how Right Media&#8217;s Exchange could help with some of those problems.</p>
<p>Later that summer I was in New York when a group from Yahoo! came to meet with the Right Media executive team.  The morning of the meeting, Ant and I were tasked with building a presentation for one portion of the meeting.  As a great example of the hectic pace of the startup world, we again lacked context and tried to scrap our way through it anyway.  As you&#8217;d expect, we created a terrible presentation that wasn&#8217;t usable for the meeting.  The meeting apparently went well, but the panic I felt that morning was something I&#8217;ll never forget.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yahoorightmedia.png"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yahoorightmedia.png" alt="Yahoo and Right Media" title="yahoorightmedia" width="255" height="132" class="alignleft size-full wp-image-995" /></a>In October of of 2006 things really started to get more real as Yahoo! invested $40 million into Right Media for 20% of the company and to become a major client of the Exchange.  This was a huge win both from a company stability perspective financially, but it also provided a marquee quality client who validated the Exchange in the eyes of the industry.</p>
<p>Of course, there were feelings internally and rumors abound through the rest of 2006 and early 2007 that Yahoo! might want the whole company.  As visitors from Yahoo! became more frequent to the offices in 2007, it was a not so subtle secret they were doing due diligence and diving deeper on our technology.  </p>
<p>After spending Monday through Thursday at a conference my flighted landed in Eugene and I received a call from Christine Hunsicker our COO.  She said I needed to be in New York by 9:00 am the following morning to demo Direct Media Exchange to people from Yahoo! and to bring along our lead product manager and lead engineer for the product.  I told her this would be tough as I hadn&#8217;t been home all week and it was already Thursday afternoon.  She said she wasn&#8217;t asking if I could do it or not, so we drove the two hours to Portland to take a red eye to New York.  </p>
<p>We flew all night, changed in the bathroom at JFK, and then made it to the Right Media offices a bit late.  The three of us walked into the main Right Media conference room where there was a few Right Media executives and then a number of executives from Yahoo!.  At the time I wasn&#8217;t familiar with any of the Yahoo! executives as it was my first time meeting them, but it was a pretty high-powered tech crowd in the room consisting of SVP of Product Mark Morrissey, SVP of Engineering David Ku, Chief Scientist Qi Lu (now the President of Online Services at Microsoft), VP of Product John Slade, and halfway through the meeting Jerry Yang also made an appearance.</p>
<p>We were asked to demo Direct Media Exchange so we connected our product manager&#8217;s laptop to the projector.  Remember, this was after a night of travel and no sleep.  As the demo begins, the first thing everyone notices is his Firefox toolbar is set to Google as the default search engine.  Oops, strike one! </p>
<p>After some half-joking and half-serious comments about the toolbar, I gave an introduction to the product and ask our product manager to login to the application. He then clicked on the username form field and hesitated.  I wasn&#8217;t sure why he was doing so, but he gave me a look that let me know something was wrong.  I urged him to proceed, and he typed in a Gmail address to login to the application.  Apparently it was the only address he had with administrative priviledges.  Oops, strike two!  </p>
<p>We endured some more jokes that were increasingly serious, but then continued to give a quality demo of the application with plenty of good dialog.  I thought we&#8217;d moved past the early mistakes when we were asked whether we were building a specific future enhancement.  Our product manager responded &#8220;Absolutely, I&#8217;ve already created some mockups I can show you.&#8221;   I wanted to bang my head on the desk at that point, as I knew what was coming and he opened up mockups that he&#8217;d recently created in MS Paint.  That&#8217;s right, they were screenshots of our app with hand-drawn new features scribbled on it.  A true professional mockup!  Strike three?  </p>
<p>Fortunately, the strength of what we&#8217;d built and the traction we&#8217;d achieved with Direct Media Exchange in the demo was what ended up hopefully being memorable.  The company overall ended up being a compelling option for Yahoo! after Google had just ponied up $3.1 billion for DoubleClick just a few weeks earlier.  <a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/2007/04/29/yahoo-acquires-right-media-im-a-yahooligan/">Yahoo! purchased the remaining 80% of Right Media</a> it didn&#8217;t already own for $680M making it one of the largest ad technology acquisitions of all time.</p>
<h3>The Acquisition</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yahoonight.jpg"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yahoonight-300x145.jpg" alt="Yahoo! Acquisition" title="yahoonight" width="300" height="145" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-997" /></a>Getting acquired is an extremely interesting experience.   Of course the team celebrated, as it was a large acquisition and it really validates what you&#8217;ve been working so hard on.  This was the goal right?  Or at least one of the big goals?  </p>
<p>On one hand you are happy knowing that your company&#8217;s stock is now liquid, and you have the hope of the business becoming even bigger and achieving more success with the &#8220;endless&#8221; resources of the acquiring company.  It was also exciting to go work for one of the pioneers of the web who had big businesses in so many areas online.</p>
<p>However, even having never been through an acquisition, I knew many things were going to change.   Immediately the people in our Eugene office began to wonder what would happen to them and if our Eugene office would be closed.  At this point we had over 30 employees in our Eugene office but people wondered if they&#8217;d have new managers, if they&#8217;d be laid off, and what would happen to the products they were working on.</p>
<p>The acquisition process and integration itself for me personally was good.  It could have been improved probably with more structured education on Yahoo!&#8217;s businesses and such, but I felt very welcomed by employees at Yahoo!, and got to immediately start spending time in various Yahoo! offices teaching people about Right Media and what we did.  </p>
<p>On my first trip to the Burbank office a group of employees I had just met invited me with them to an Anaheim Might Ducks playoff hockey game. It was a good experience to get to know them personally and see my first live hockey game at the same time. </p>
<p>Moving to their IT systems and and way of working was also pretty easy, but there were still challenging questions the companies had to work through.  What would happen to the Right Media brand?  Do we integrate websites?  What do we switch to Yahoo! technology and what don&#8217;t we?  Can we still use Google Analytics to track our sites?  Most of these things got resolved over time without too much trouble.</p>
<h3>Post-Acquisition</h3>
<p>After the honeymoon period was over more challenges began to pop up.  Specifically, there were strategic questions that showed everyone was not perfectly aligned on where everything was headed and how it should be built.  Should we build on top of the existing Right Media technology?  Should we start and build a new ad platform from scratch that has the functionality of Right Media combined with the guaranteed ad serving system Yahoo! had built in house?  </p>
<p>After the decision was made to build a new platform from scratch (<a href="http://yhoo.client.shareholder.com/press/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=336557">APT</a>) there were then issues trying to keep building Right Media Exchange functionality as many engineers had been moved to work on the new project.  Additionally, many engineers had to work on scaling Right Media itself with all of Yahoo!&#8217;s added volume and integrating with Yahoo!&#8217;s finance systems.  This left little room in the road map to keep pushing Right Media as hard as many of us had hoped.</p>
<p>Despite this, there was a lot of excitement over the new system being built and the strategies to do some amazing thing in the display advertising space.</p>
<p>Personally, I had been promoted and was excited about taking on responsibilities at Yahoo! that also went outside of Right Media.  It was interesting to learn about new areas of Yahoo!&#8217;s business and work with so many new people within the company.   I&#8217;ve heard other acquisition stories where people from acquired companies were buried in the bigger organization and not given prominent roles.  Yahoo! definitely gave various people at Right Media strong roles within the company, although there are definitely people who did get stuck in unfortunate situations.</p>
<h3>Microsoft Acquisition Attempt</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/microhoo1.jpg"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/microhoo1-300x54.jpg" alt="Microhoo" title="microhoo" width="300" height="54" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-1003" /></a>Not too long after getting settled in at Yahoo!, Terry Semel was replaced with Jerry Yang as the CEO and Microsoft went public with their acquisition offer.  This was a very interesting time to say the least. It was a rapid ascent to being a startup striving for attention every day to having Yahoo! on every news site all day long with rumors and speculation about the Microsoft acquisition.   People tried to not make it a distraction, but I think everyone would be lying if they said there wasn&#8217;t a lot of time spent reading that speculation online every day and talking casually around the offices about the situation.  For the most part it seemed like most projects kept their momentum as everyone knew that it was a long way from happening for sure.</p>
<p>Everyone I talked to internally loved the idea of locking in a stock price in the $30s, but no one was very excited about having to integrate two companies of that size with different cultures and missions.  I felt the same way, and was wondering what would happen to Right Media in the situation of an acquisition.</p>
<p>Of course, it all fell apart.  It was followed by the attempted search deal with Google and it ended Jerry&#8217;s time at CEO.  In retrospect based on the stock price alone you&#8217;d have to classify that it was a mistake for Yahoo! to not take one of the Microsoft offers.  However, Yahoo! is still a profitable independent company today which I&#8217;d say is better for the overall health of the web than if the acquisition had been successful.</p>
<p>Besides the Microsoft acquisition, Yahoo!&#8217;s display strategy was also affected by the economy going into the recession.  A lot of the ideas around building guaranteed cross-selling relationships for display didn&#8217;t make a ton of sense when every publisher was struggling to sell their own inventory alone.  This turned a lot of the development of the APT platform to be on building it internally for Yahoo! while continuing to support the Newspaper Consortium who was using the product to run their display ad businesses and sell Yahoo!&#8217;s inventory to local advertisers.</p>
<p>The soured economy led to two rounds of layoffs as well.  Laying off members of my team and seeing former Right Media employees in Eugene was definitely the lowest point at Yahoo!.  Some of the decisions on who to layoff just didn&#8217;t seem to make any sense, although struggling to figure it out has never gotten me anywhere.  That being said, the company definitely felt overstaffed to me at the time, so it seemed like layoffs did make sense for Yahoo! overall.</p>
<h3>The New Yahoo!</h3>
<p><a href="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yahoomanagement.jpg"><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/yahoomanagement.jpg" alt="YahooQ New Branding Campaign" title="yahoomanagement" width="545" height="183" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-1005" /></a>After all that drama, Carol Bartz was brought in as CEO and began to make changes throughout the company.  Carol did a nice job shutting down certain products and businesses, selling some pieces of Yahoo!, and the change brought some executive turnover and org structure changes.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, one of those products <a href="http://www.adexchanger.com/ad-exchange-news/yahoo-closes-right-medias-direct-media-exchange/">that got shuttered was Direct Media Exchange</a>.  While it was sad for our team in Eugene who built it, the reality was that the code hadn&#8217;t been touched since the Right Media acquisition.  The product had continued to grow and was doing over 20 billion impressions a month and was easily profitable since there was only a small team doing customer support for it.  I was a believer though in the company&#8217;s mission to focus, and smaller publishers were not a priority of the company as also demonstrated by the shutting down of the Yahoo! Publisher Network product for small publishers.</p>
<p>The major area though that Carol &#8220;outsourced&#8221; was the search technology business to Microsoft.  This became a huge strategic focus for the company and I took the opportunity to move completely out of the Exchange area into B2B Marketing to run the marketing for the Search Alliance with Microsoft.  It was a nice change of pace to work on search, work with Microsoft directly, and to work with a new group within Yahoo!.  </p>
<p>During this period our office in Eugene was closed as our lease ran out and we were down from 30+ employees to 7 after the two rounds of layoffs, people moving to other Yahoo! offices, or leaving for other job opportunities altogether. </p>
<p>It became clear to me over this time though that I was getting the entrepreneurial itch again and I wanted to get back to building products. One of nice things about a big company is there are specialists to perform almost every task, but I felt more and more like I spent my whole day just talking to people internally while doing status reports and internal presentations.  While there is some value in that, it feels like I was disconnected from products and customers.  I could have explored moving into other parts of Yahoo!, but I really wanted to start a company and get back to being an entrepreneur.</p>
<h3>Overall</h3>
<p>The bottom line was the whole thing was a positive experience for me. I&#8217;m glad Brian initially recruited me into it and that the Right Media executive team was supportive of building a presence in Eugene.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting though is how perspectives can differ, because I know some people at Right Media felt the acquisition was a very negative experience for them. For me though it was positive to have Right Media stock become liquid, I was exposed to many things I never would have learned in a startup or small company, and I got to have front row seats to some very interesting things happening in technology.  The best part really may have been many of the friends I made along the way, many of whom I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll work with again. Not a bad way at all to spend the early part of my 30s.  </p>
<p>I wish the ending would have turned out different for Direct Media Exchange, and I wish the momentum of the Right Media Exchange wouldn&#8217;t have slowed down.  As I was leaving Yahoo! though, it appeared that more emphasis was being put back on that business so hopefully that continues that way.
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		<title>Paul Graham&#8217;s Essay on Yahoo! and the Reaction From the Twitterverse</title>
		<link>http://www.conversionrater.com/2010/08/17/paul-grahams-essay-on-yahoo-and-the-reaction-from-the-twitterverse/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 04:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week investor/entrepreneur, and head of startup incubator YCombinator, Paul Graham penned another one of his outstanding essays for his site. The topic of this latest essay is Paul&#8217;s opinion about what &#8220;happened&#8221; at Yahoo! (my former employer as well), and specifically what he noticed in his time working there that formed his opinion of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.conversionrater.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jerry_yang-300x199.jpg" alt="Jerry Yang of Yahoo! at Techpulse" title="Jerry Yang of Yahoo! at Techpulse" width="300" height="199" class="size-medium wp-image-948" align="left" hspace="5" vspace="5" /> Last week investor/entrepreneur, and head of startup incubator <a href="http://ycombinator.com/">YCombinator</a>, Paul Graham penned another one of his <a href="http://paulgraham.com/articles.html">outstanding essays</a> for his site.   The topic of this latest essay is Paul&#8217;s opinion about <a href="http://paulgraham.com/yahoo.html">what &#8220;happened&#8221; at Yahoo!</a> (my former employer as well), and specifically what he noticed in his time working there that formed his opinion of &#8220;what happened at Yahoo!&#8221;.</p>
<p>The point of Paul&#8217;s essay is to explain why he thinks Yahoo! &#8220;got hosed&#8221; and is a place where &#8220;things went wrong&#8221;.  This is a standard theme in the media over the past few years as Yahoo! has consistently been compared to first Google&#8217;s rise, and now Facebook&#8217;s, and how Yahoo! failed.  I don&#8217;t have too many problems with Paul&#8217;s essay itself.  He&#8217;s speaking about his own experience at Yahoo! and why he thinks there were some fundamental issues that haven&#8217;t allowed the company to achieve as much success as he or others expect.  I do have a few points of contention though, such as saying that no company has made a technical turnaround from a death spiral when there is such an obvious example sitting out there in Apple, but I can leave those for another day.  Overall, it&#8217;s a very interesting read to get Paul&#8217;s perspective.  As you&#8217;ll soon see, Paul&#8217;s obviously not alone in thinking that way.</p>
<p>My biggest problem I had with Paul&#8217;s essay was actually the reaction of how some extremely smart entrepreneurs and tech investors referred to Paul&#8217;s article on Twitter.  Here are some samples:</p>
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<p class='bbpTweet'>Good piece by Paul Graham on how losing a &#8220;hacker culture&#8221; killed Yahoo <a href="http://bit.ly/aRZWkP" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/aRZWkP</a><span class='timestamp'><a title='Sun Aug 15 21:55:07 +0000 2010' href='http://twitter.com/pkedrosky/status/21262259426'>less than a minute ago</a> via <a href="http://www.echofon.com/" rel="nofollow">Echofon</a></span><span class='metadata'><span class='author'><a href='http://twitter.com/pkedrosky'><img src='http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/66464034/pkedrosky4_normal.jpg' /></a><strong><a href='http://twitter.com/pkedrosky'>Paul Kedrosky</a></strong><br />pkedrosky</span></span></p>
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<p>According to Paul Kedrosky, a well-known investor/entrepreneur/blogger, Yahoo! is already dead.  I know it&#8217;s a figure of speech, but isn&#8217;t killed a bit aggressive for a company that had $1.6 billion in revenue in Q2 and operating income of $175 million? No, that&#8217;s not Google, but it&#8217;s not Altavista either (since they actually are dead).</p>
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<p class='bbpTweet'>In case you were wondering why Yahoo collapsed&#8230; Paul Graham explains <a href="http://read.bi/cvYY41" rel="nofollow">http://read.bi/cvYY41</a><span class='timestamp'><a title='Thu Aug 12 01:04:09 +0000 2010' href='http://twitter.com/hblodget/status/20932292113'>less than a minute ago</a> via <a href="http://www.businessinsider.com" rel="nofollow">Business Insider</a></span><span class='metadata'><span class='author'><a href='http://twitter.com/hblodget'><img src='http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/61099355/blodgethead_normal.jpg' /></a><strong><a href='http://twitter.com/hblodget'>Henry Blodget</a></strong><br />hblodget</span></span></p>
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<p>Investor/entrepreneur/blogger Henry Blodget says Yahoo! collapsed!  Did I miss this?  I wonder where my paychecks were coming from for the last three years?  Blodget is actually sort of employed by Yahoo! on the <a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker">TechTicker show</a>, so he should know that no collapse ever occurred.  Even if you aren&#8217;t happy with how Yahoo! has performed compared to others, collapse is just sensationalistic.<br />
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<p class='bbpTweet'>A brilliant post by Paul Graham on why yahoo is lost:  <a href="http://www.paulgraham.com/yahoo.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.paulgraham.com/yahoo.html</a>  (via @<a class="tweet-url username" href="http://twitter.com/cdixon" rel="nofollow">cdixon</a>)<span class='timestamp'><a title='Thu Aug 12 00:37:52 +0000 2010' href='http://twitter.com/rabois/status/20930498654'>less than a minute ago</a> via web</span><span class='metadata'><span class='author'><a href='http://twitter.com/rabois'><img src='http://a3.twimg.com/profile_images/96463735/PR_black___White_normal.jpg' /></a><strong><a href='http://twitter.com/rabois'>Keith Rabois</a></strong><br />rabois</span></span></p>
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<p>Investor/entrepreneur Keith Rabois calls Yahoo! &#8220;lost&#8221;.  This is not as bad as aggressive as &#8220;killed&#8221; or &#8220;collapsed&#8221;, as I can see someone arguing that Yahoo! hasn&#8217;t had a clear sense of direction at various times over the last decade.  </p>
<p>Many others also had similar comments on Twitter about the post. What I found interesting about all this is how so many smart people in the tech space who see first hand how hard it is to build successful web businesses are so willing to tear Yahoo! apart.  How many of these investors or entrepreneurs will ever build a company the magnitude of Yahoo?  How many of these people would just LOVE to build one company that was in the top few companies in it&#8217;s space when Yahoo! is currently in the top three and often #1 in almost every category (Search, Mail, Homepage, News, Sports, Finance, Messenger, Women, Entertainment, etc.)  They keep talking about how it&#8217;s all on a decline, and in some cases that is occurring, but in other places Yahoo! continues to grow in these areas.  </p>
<p>How many web companies have actually lasted 15 years with the amount of success Yahoo! has had and continues to have?  Isn&#8217;t it amazing that Yahoo! is still doing so well when the majority of companies that started when they did flamed out in 1999-2001?  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Yahoo! has it&#8217;s share or problems it will need to tackle to stay as popular and relevant as it&#8217;s been.  The web is changing rapidly and Yahoo! will have to innovate to keep up.  They have thousands of employees working on it though, and I&#8217;d give them a better shot than the rest of the &#8220;media&#8221; companies out there to be the next-generation media company as TV/magazine/print continue their decline.  Will they be the leader in search or social?  No, but why does everyone expect them to be?</p>
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		<title>Yahoo! and Microsoft Search Alliance Video</title>
		<link>http://www.conversionrater.com/2010/07/15/yahoo-and-microsoft-search-alliance-video/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 22:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My team in partnership with the marketing team at Microsoft put together this new video explaining the Yahoo! and Microsoft Search Alliance. Yahoo! and Microsoft: A powerful new choice @ Yahoo! Video]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My team in partnership with the marketing team at Microsoft put together this <a href="http://video.yahoo.com/watch/7881058/20891557">new video</a> explaining the Yahoo! and Microsoft Search Alliance.  </p>
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		<title>Loving the Citizen Sports Acquisition</title>
		<link>http://www.conversionrater.com/2010/03/17/loving-the-citizen-sports-acquisition/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Startups]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[My employer Yahoo! announced the acquisition of Citizen Sports yesterday. As an avid user of their iPhone application Sportacular, I can personally attest that get social and sports really well, and it&#8217;ll be interesting to see what they do hooked into the #1 sports destination on the web in Yahoo! Sports. Not personally working in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My employer Yahoo! <a href="http://ycorpblog.com/2010/03/17/citizen-sports/">announced the acquisition of Citizen Sports</a> yesterday.  As an avid user of their iPhone application Sportacular, I can personally attest that get social and sports really well, and it&#8217;ll be interesting to see what they do hooked into the #1 sports destination on the web in Yahoo! Sports.<br />
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Not personally working in that area of the company, I have no insight into what the strategy is with this acquisition, but there are some definite synergies around bringing the Yahoo! Sports content into Sportacular and Citizen Sports Facebook applications.  Also, as a leader in fantasy sports in general, I imagine there will be some shared synergies with Citizen Sports leading fantasy football application on Facebook.</p>
<p>A lot of the clarity over the last year that Carol Bartz has brought to Yahoo! is to focus on Yahoo!&#8217;s strengh in the audience business, and this acquisition seems to fit that focus well.
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		<title>Happy 15th Birthday to Yahoo!</title>
		<link>http://www.conversionrater.com/2010/03/01/happy-15th-birthday-to-yahoo/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My employer Yahoo! is celebrating it&#8217;s 15th birthday. That&#8217;s quite an amazing feat for an internet company, as it doesn&#8217;t seem all that long ago that I was first checking out Yahoo! as a high school senior browsing with NCSA Mosaic when it first started to grow. Yahoo! has had it&#8217;s fair share of trials [...]]]></description>
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<p>My employer <a href="http://ycorpblog.com/2010/02/26/y15birthday/">Yahoo! is celebrating it&#8217;s 15th birthday</a>.  That&#8217;s quite an amazing feat for an internet company, as it doesn&#8217;t seem all that long ago that I was first checking out Yahoo! as a high school senior browsing with NCSA Mosaic when it first started to grow. </p>
<p>Yahoo! has had it&#8217;s fair share of trials and tribulations over the years, but it&#8217;s gone through and emerged from all the phases of the web as a leader, and continues to be a leader in so many areas today.</p>
<p>As part of the 15th celebration, the company is <a href="http://ycorpblog.com/2010/03/01/triviachallenge/">holding a Twitter contest</a> worth checking out.</p>
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		<title>Mike Relm Remixes Yahoo! &#8220;Anthem&#8221; Ad</title>
		<link>http://www.conversionrater.com/2009/10/05/mike-relm-remixes-yahoo-anthem-ad/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 21:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Renowned video/audio mashup DJ Mike Relm took on the Yahoo! Anthem TV ad and put together a creative remix on it. Cool stuff. Here&#8217;s his explanation of the project on his blog. Here&#8217;s the original Yahoo! TV ad. Yahoo!&#39;s new &#34;Anthem&#34; ad @ Yahoo! Video]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renowned video/audio mashup DJ <a href="http://www.mikerelm.com/">Mike Relm</a> took on the Yahoo! Anthem TV ad and put together a creative remix on it.  Cool stuff.  Here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.mikerelm.com/blog/music/my-first-zoetrope/">his explanation of the project on his blog</a>.<br />
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Here&#8217;s the original Yahoo! TV ad.</p>
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		<title>Yahoo! Open Hack Day in NYC</title>
		<link>http://www.conversionrater.com/2009/09/24/873/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pat McCarthy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yahoo! is holding their first ever East Coast open hack day October 9th and 10th in New York. I&#8217;ll be attending the event and I&#8217;m excited as it&#8217;s my first Open Hack Day and I&#8217;ll be very interested to see what kinds of hacks people can create with all the new tools Yahoo! has available. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://ycorpblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/openhacknyc.jpg" alt="http://ycorpblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/openhacknyc.jpg" align="right" hspace="5" vspace="5" alt="Yahoo Open Hack Day NYC 2009"/>Yahoo! is holding their first ever East Coast open hack day October 9th and 10th in New York.  I&#8217;ll be attending the event and I&#8217;m excited as it&#8217;s my first Open Hack Day and I&#8217;ll be very interested to see what kinds of hacks people can create with all the new tools Yahoo! has available.<br />
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<a href="http://ycorpblog.com/2009/09/24/yahoo-new-york-developers/">Yodel Anecdotel has more information</a>, and here&#8217;s a &#8220;hackumentary&#8221; video from the last Hack Day that was held at Yahoo!&#8217;s Sunnyvale campus.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/1905714">Hack Day &#8211;  a hackumentary short film</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/rickymontalvo">ricky montalvo</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
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